Head tube angle determines the angle of your forks. A steeper HT (i.e 75°and higher) will make the bike turn quicker than a mellower angle (i.e 74.5 and lower°). The more responsive the frame, the more twitchy it will feel, especially at highspeed!
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The 187 V2 frame from Tall Order features a logo embossed external gusset on the top tube for increased strength, an addition from the preious model.
If you are looking for a frame to help you learn all of the big tricks this is the frame for you. With its short back end and low stand over the rider riding the 187 has complete control and the big tricks like tailwhips and spin tricks will be much easier to learn.
The 187 frame features the same unique integrated seat clamp design as the Tall Order 215 but with a much lower standover height at only 7.4″ with a shorter rear triangle.
The 187 is made from Japanese Sanko 4130 chromoly tubing and is designed to be light without compromising on strength. -
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Product Specs
- MATERIAL: Full 4130 Chromoly
- HEAD TUBE ANGLE: 75°
- SEAT TUBE ANGLE: 71°
- CHAIN STAY LENGTH: 12.8"
- BB HEIGHT: 11.6"
- WHEEL SIZE: 20"
- STANDOVER HEIGHT: 7.4"
- DROPOUT SIZE: 14mm
- HEADSET TYPE: Integrated
- BB TYPE: Mid
- BRAKE MOUNTS: Removable
- GYRO TABS: Removable
- WEIGHT: 5.02lbs
Product Highlights
- Responsive Geometry with Short Backend and Steep Headtube
- Great all round frame for all types of riding
- Built in Chain Tensioners Keep your Wheel in Place
- Lower standover height of 7.4"
- Built from high quality Japanese Sanko 4130 chromoly
NEED SOME HELP UNDERSTANDING FRAME GEOMETRY?
bmx frame geometry can look daunting but thanks to our handy guide below you will have it figured out in no time, and remember we're all bmxers here, so if you have any questions just ask.
Frame Size Chart
Frame Sizing is very much a personal preference, some riders like them longer, others shorter - here's a rough guide - if you have any questions remember we are here to help!
3ft - 4ft - best suited to a 16" or 18" wheeled bike
4ft - 5ft - 18" to 20" top tube
5ft - 5ft 4" - 20" to 20.25" top tube
5ft 4" - 5ft 8" - 20.25" to 21" top tube
5ft 8" - 6ft - 21" to 21.25" top tube
6ft Plus - 21" top tube or longer
Frame Geometry
Frame Geometry can take a bit of understanding - but here at SourceBMX we are here to help! The first thing to understand is that BMX frame Sizing is best measured by the length of the Top Tube - shown here as TT. Keep reading on to understand how the angles change how your frame will feel and check out our sizing chart below!
Headtube Angle (HT)
Chain Stay Length (CS)
The chain stay is essentially the length of the rear end of the bike. A shorter CS length will make the bike more responsive and a longer one more stable. As a rough guide a 13.5" long chain stay is about average.
Seat Tube Angle (ST)
Seat tube angles don’t vary too much (around 71°) and affect the centre of gravity. The steeper the angle the shorter your bike will feel. Some frames have a mellower seat tube angle (example 69˚) which makes for a longer frame without actually being longer and reduces how fast your frame turns.
Stand Over Height (SO)
Standover height is essentially how high your frame is. A frame with a low standover height is more responsive and easier to ‘throw around’ whilst a high SO height is more stable; particularly useful when going fast.
